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hey guys what's going on ryan sprague

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here from somewhere in the skies and

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welcome

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to a very special presentation tonight

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this

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live stream that i uh i wanted to share

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with you guys um

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before i do that i had no idea that our

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good friends at the unidentified

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celebrity review

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were going live at this very moment as

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well

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going live over on his show meanwhile

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here on earth so to both of these

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gentlemen i do apologize

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um i'm new to this monday live stream

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thing so please forgive me i hope um

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i hope we can all uh be a part of each

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other's shows uh moving forward so um

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go watch unidentified celebrity review

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after this and go watch meanwhile

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here on earth with peter robbins at the

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kgra network on youtube uh

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so the reason i am here with you guys

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tonight is uh

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there has been so much talk lately of

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this uap

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report that's coming from the pentagon

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this almost mythical creature something

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that we're hoping

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will be big um that this will be grand

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disclosure for everyone but uh i think

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most of us at this point know uh that's

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probably not gonna be the case

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but we should be excited nonetheless

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that we're getting anything

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from the government when it comes to

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ufos but that is um that's kind of what

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we're going to be talking about tonight

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is um the tumultuous history

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government in specific

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with uh the uap topic ufos so um

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this might be treading a lot of the

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stuff you already know but for anyone

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new watching this who

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you know kind of wants to get caught up

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on the the very

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interesting history of ufos in the

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government um this is for you

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so um either way veterans newbies alike

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i hope you'll appreciate this

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tonight um it is a presentation so i

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have a bunch of slides for you guys

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i'm going to be reading from my script

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as some of you may know when i'm not a

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ufo researcher

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i'm a playwright so i'm a slave to a

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script so please forgive me for that

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this is my first time

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putting this presentation together um

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but we will get through it together

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but before we do that i do want to say

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hello to everyone

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in the chat we've got night gazer

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invisible night school

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ethereal aura is here wayne is here gaza

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is here artemis is here

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thank you thank you to all of you guys

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for being here tonight

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hello ufo knots

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this is awesome again i know there's a

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that's all the marketing i'm gonna do

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with you guys um so yeah

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i guess um again forgive me if i trip

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it's my first time doing this but let's

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with the history of the ufos and uh

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government so bear with me here as i

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navigate through

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all of the stuff i tried to prepare for

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so yes this is kind of where it all

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uh can you guys hear me while these

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photos are up here please let me know

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because that would be deadly

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if not you're just staring at an object

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so washington dc uh

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well let's go back a little bit kenneth

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arnold uh had his famous

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flying saucer sighting over mount

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rainier in washington on

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major wave of ufos cited over washington

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dc and even over the capital uh jets

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scrambled and they still couldn't figure

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out what these things were

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and um panic was setting in so

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the pentagon and the air force wanted to

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you know sort of set the record straight

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supposedly crashing things are being

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they're swarming over our nation's

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project now we all know about project

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blue book which we'll get to but

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project sign and project grudge which uh

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which ran from 1949 to early 1950

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and by the time grudge was around the

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air force wanted to

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basically debunk the ufo craze that had

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sort of swept the nation so let me get

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that face should look familiar to a lot

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um yeah this is when project blue book

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and uh it was more of a publicity stunt

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on the surface

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to explain away ufos and uh one of the

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astronomer j allen heineck

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exactly what the air force wanted and um

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enforcement aviation companies and of

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so this is what was called the robertson

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panel the number of ufo reports had

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of scientists to investigate the

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of ufos

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notion that this was an

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extraterrestrial visitation

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pentagon and he stated the following

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ability anything

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pursuit of this obligation

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since 1947 we have received and analyzed

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one and two thousand reports that have

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however there have been a certain

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percentage of this volume of reports

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that have been made by credible

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of relatively incredible things

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so yeah that was from a long time ago

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and we're hearing almost the same thing

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coming from the pentagon

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today which we will get to a little bit

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later but um it's pretty interesting how

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this is mirroring a lot of what went on

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during the robertson

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panel and whatnot but um yeah so j

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robertson panel he was brought in

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to look at these things with fellow

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and everyone in between and um he was

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especially and there was a documentary

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actually narrated called uh ufos it has

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so i'm gonna let jl and heinek actually

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been scientific advisor to the us air

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force on this very problem

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there were two films that were of

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particular interest to the

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panel at that time one was a film taken

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by a navy officer while on vacation in

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utah near tremonton utah

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the utah film had already been subjected

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to some

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thousand or so man hours of analysis by

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the navy's photographic interpretation

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so the panel got up from their chairs

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and crouched around the

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walls and family films they asked to

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have the films run several times as a

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matter of fact

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now the navy had on the basis of their

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detailed analysis

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of the utah films they had concluded

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that the objects shown on the films

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could not be

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birds balloons aircraft and so forth but

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indeed that they were self-luminous

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unidentified objects despite this

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conclusion

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the panel rejected it and concluded that

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the objects were

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birds they couldn't be unidentified

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therefore they had to be birds

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i came away from the meeting and from

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the room with the

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distinct feeling however that the panel

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had deliberately moved to debunk

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the whole subject and not to give it

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the serious scientific attention which

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right so after that basically once

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project blue book uh

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kind of concluded which we will get to

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um

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hynek kind of left thinking a lot of

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this is real

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a lot of these anomalies i cannot

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explain

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they cannot be debunked and he would

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actually go on to form his own ufo

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organization

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to investigate ufos so talk about like a

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turn of the tides when it comes to be

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going in

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to debunk and then coming out on the

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other side um not so much a believer i

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would say but an

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acknowledger of the fact that ufo

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phenomena

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is far more complex than we could ever

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possibly imagine or find answers to

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um now during his time though

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when he was sent in to debunk a lot of

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these things there was a very famous

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incident

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in michigan which a lot of you probably

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know about the infamous

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swamp gas explanation so a ton of people

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in michigan

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had reported seeing these really strange

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aluminum illuminated

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lights and discs and everything in

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between and

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um heinek came there and after doing a

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thorough investigation

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he gave a press conference in michigan

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uh detroit i believe

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to be exact and um told

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everyone that what they saw was swamp

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gas

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this natural phenomena that exists in

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the very

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gaseous um belly of swamps where

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you know all this pressure and um and

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stuff just

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explodes to the surface in illuminated

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light in that

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somehow all of these people had mistaken

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that for a ufo

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um so you can imagine a lot of the

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residents were pissed off

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when he uh when he brought this theory

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forward a lot of them

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knew that he was just um saying this to

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make the air force happy and the public

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overall

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but um there was one guy who was really

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pissed off about it

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and uh made his thoughts known and that

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was um

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a congressman and a future president

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which was gerald ford so um yeah let's

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move

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to the gerald ford affair

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so in april of 1966

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gerald ford um who at the time like i

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mentioned was a michigan congressman

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was very disappointed in the air force's

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explanations

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that were brought forward on the ufos

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and um he actually requested

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congressional hearings

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to take place to further understand the

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ufo issue

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um again you got to think we're dealing

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with the cold war during this time

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tensions are high we have to take these

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unknown things in our skies

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seriously and it didn't seem to be that

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way yeah the air force was looking into

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it but they were

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explaining away everything without

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really looking into it

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so um ford wanted some sort of

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official committee to really

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figure this out once and for all um the

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hearings did take place

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yes there were congressional hearings on

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ufos even though that's not talked about

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a lot um and this committee was formed

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at the request of the air force

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to review the most interesting material

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gathered by project blue book

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and this was known as the condon

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committee

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and that right there is edward

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u condon um the committee was named

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after him he was a physicist

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who headed the investigation so for

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almost two years after ford's request

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this committee made a detailed study of

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59

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ufo cases released its results under the

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title

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scientific study of unidentified flying

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objects

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also known as the condon report and um

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the report was reviewed by a special

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committee of the national academy of

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sciences

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a total of 37 scientists wrote chapters

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or parts of a chapter for the report

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which covered investigations into these

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sightings and

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just like the robertson panel the

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committee concluded that there was no

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evidence of anything other

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than commonplace phenomena in the

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reports and that ufos did not

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warrant further investigation um

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so that's kind of where we laid with

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these two

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very deflated projects or committees or

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panels that looked into ufos at the time

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within government and um this next video

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i'm going to show you is from 1966

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and it's with lieutenant colonel

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lawrence tacker who was the chiefs

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spokesperson on the ufo matter for the

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air force chief spokesperson so um

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the air force has been accused from time

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to time of hiding information about

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ufo what do you have to say to that kind

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of happening these charges are

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absolutely untrue

456
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actually the united states air force

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releases statistics on the ufo phenomena

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through the department of defense press

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desk periodically

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and we've always honored accredited

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media when they want to investigate

462
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a given specific signing there's nothing

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to hack

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i doubt there's nothing to hide but okay

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air force

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um we won't go there uh but sort of

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i guess what we could take from the

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condon committee

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um is that uh

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content actually made up his mind about

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this not being extraterrestrial this not

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being um

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unexplainable he made these conclusions

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basically when the committee first

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started and before it ended

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he already knew the conclusions that he

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wanted this community

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uh to come to the conclusion so um

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yeah again just another way to kind of

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um brush

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all this under the rug and have the

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public move on

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00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:28,799
from this topic and uh it kind of stayed

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that way

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for a while and again i know there's

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probably other little things i'm missing

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um that a lot of the ufo vets can fill

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in the gaps with but um

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officially in congress in the government

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with the air force

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this is kind of it um but we'll find out

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that that's not always the case

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so project blue book ended in 1969

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coming to the conclusions of the

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continent committee and we really didn't

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have

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anything um after that for a while um

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now there is a

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really interesting event that i do want

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to share with you guys that kind of has

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to do with government

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if you do consider the united nations um

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in that realm

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so i'm gonna share this with you guys

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here

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thank you for bearing with me through

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so yeah the united nations got involved

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with ufos

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um this came

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in uh 1978 and a

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assembly was brought together so

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basically the prime minister

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of grenada at the time uh sir eric

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matthew gary

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was convinced the united nations had not

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adequately responded to what he was

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calling

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the ufo phenomenon gary had a vision of

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a global

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task force very interesting comprised of

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representatives from the world's most

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powerful nations

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its purpose was according to one

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document quote

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undertaking coordinating and

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disseminating the results of research

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into unidentified fine objects and

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related phenomena end quote

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uh gary needed some credible testimony

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00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,720
to really punch up this pitch to the

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united nations

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for his task force so he um he actually

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reached out to

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lee spiegel um who some of you may

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00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,799
actually know

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he is a journalist here in new york city

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where i live

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he's written for the huffington post and

539
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he has been covering ufos

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for a really long time and um so with

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the help of lee spiegel

542
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um who's made a lot of connections in

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the ufo world while um producing

544
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a documentary back in the day for cbs

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and in all of his other ufo research

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um gary enlisted a panel of experts

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who met with un secretary general kurt

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walltime

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in july of 1978 so that picture below

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there

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pictured from left is actually astronaut

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colonel gordon cooper

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astronomer jacques valet astronomer

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astrophysicist claude o'hare

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astronomer j ellen heineck grenada prime

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minister sir eric gary

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and then um let's see who else do we

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00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:04,640
have there lee spiegel obviously

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leonard stringfield and um the

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university of colorado psychologist

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david saunders um so yeah the

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presentation was very well received by

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the general assembly

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so real well received in fact that the

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um the un circulated a

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cable on december 8th basically

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encouraging nations interested

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in the proposal to go conduct their own

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research

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and uh you know basically bring it back

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to the sem

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assembly and it could be further

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discussed um

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unfortunately um this

575
00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:41,280
really sucks um the prime minister of

576
00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:42,320
grenada

577
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:44,559
he was the one who spearheaded this

578
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:45,760
whole thing

579
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:48,640
and only a year later he was ousted by a

580
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:49,360
coup

581
00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:52,320
and obviously had lost what power he had

582
00:21:58,230 --> 00:21:55,039
in grenada and clearly had other things

583
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:58,240
to attend do back home so um

584
00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:01,440
this event just it kind of fizzled

585
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:03,520
um and it would be a really long time

586
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:05,200
for anything after that but

587
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:08,559
i did get these screen grabs here that i

588
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:09,919
wanted to share with you guys this is

589
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:10,720
actually

590
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:14,240
j allen heineck at the un event

591
00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:17,760
and also jacques valet speak in the

592
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:19,360
united nations yeah

593
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:21,200
jacques excuse me you've got a heineken

594
00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:22,320
in the back there as well and

595
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:24,640
representatives from grenada

596
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:27,039
right behind them so this was such a

597
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:27,840
cool thing

598
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:29,520
and it doesn't get talked about that

599
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:30,960
often so

600
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:33,919
um you can see small snippets of this

601
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,480
event

602
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,480
in james fox's new documentary the

603
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,960
phenomenon so i highly suggest

604
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:40,720
checking that out and my special thanks

605
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:42,320
goes out to lee spiegel for sharing

606
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:43,039
these

607
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:46,720
images with me today um

608
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:49,360
so the next thing i'm going to talk

609
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:50,880
about with you guys

610
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:54,480
is an event that basically

611
00:23:02,230 --> 00:22:58,720
fast forwards us all the way up to um

612
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:02,240
all the way up to 2013. uh but i should

613
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:04,480
mention there was

614
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,919
an event that took place in uh 2001 it

615
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:09,840
was called the disclosure project it was

616
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:10,880
headed by

617
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:12,720
stephen greer who is a very

618
00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:14,880
controversial figure in the ufo field

619
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,360
but he did incredible work in the early

620
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:19,440
2000s gathering all of these military

621
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:20,400
witnesses

622
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:23,520
intelligence agents and um getting them

623
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:25,120
together at the national press club in

624
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:26,480
washington dc

625
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:29,200
and basically giving testimony of events

626
00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:30,320
they'd been a part of

627
00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:33,520
or investigated or looked into and uh

628
00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:36,080
it was incredible it truly was an

629
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:38,480
amazing event and it kind of became

630
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,600
the um you know the predecessor of an

631
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:43,279
event that would take place

632
00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:47,039
in washington again in 2013.

633
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:51,760
so boom citizen hearing on ufo

634
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:54,960
disclosure that is my mentor right there

635
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:57,120
in the front mr peter robbins

636
00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:00,000
um who some of you may know may not know

637
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:02,799
he is a very well-known ufo researcher

638
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:05,279
and um yeah a citizen hearing on ufo

639
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:06,159
disclosure

640
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:07,440
so let's go through this quick from

641
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:10,559
april 29th to may 3rd 2013

642
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:13,039
researchers activists military agency

643
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:14,480
political witnesses

644
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:17,279
um representing 10 countries gave

645
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:18,000
testimony

646
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:21,039
in washington to six former members of

647
00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:23,279
the united states congress about events

648
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:26,320
and evidence indicating a ufo presence

649
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:29,600
engaging the human race the citizen

650
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:31,120
hearing on disclosure was an

651
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:33,919
unprecedented event in terms of size

652
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:34,559
scope

653
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:37,039
and the involvement of former members of

654
00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:37,600
the us

655
00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:40,159
congress i'm going to show you a few of

656
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:48,630
got these we have

657
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:50,960
some very well-known people in the ufo

658
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:52,640
field richard dolan stan t

659
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:55,279
friedman uh grant cameron linda mullen

660
00:25:02,390 --> 00:24:57,760
howe giving testimony at the event

661
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:02,400
um we also had who else was here we had

662
00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:04,880
the members of the rendelsham forest

663
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:07,520
incident witnesses to that uh you see

664
00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:10,240
james penis in there and john burroughs

665
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:13,039
john gave a very passionate testimony

666
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:14,000
about um

667
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,039
you know his involvement in the

668
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:17,600
rendition case and health effects that

669
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:19,200
he had thereafter

670
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:21,919
and how the uh basically the event the

671
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:23,600
veterans administration

672
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:26,640
was not going to help him with ailments

673
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:29,360
that were caused by this ufo event

674
00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:32,080
and um even his health records had been

675
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:33,200
classified

676
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:35,360
so he couldn't even get those to bring

677
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:37,360
to the veteran affairs to get him that

678
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:39,600
help he needed that dude almost died and

679
00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:40,880
they weren't willing to help him because

680
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:42,559
they weren't willing to acknowledge that

681
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:43,200
uh

682
00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:45,679
some weird ufo event had caused this and

683
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:46,400
that the

684
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:49,520
the us air force was a part of it in

685
00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:51,440
some way shape or form and um he

686
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:53,279
eventually won a lawsuit

687
00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:55,600
uh through senator mccain helping them

688
00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:57,679
out and through his lawyer

689
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:01,039
and he got the um the the

690
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:03,360
surgery that he needed to basically save

691
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,400
his life

692
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:06,640
and we do have senator mccain to thank

693
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:08,799
for that and this is the first time ever

694
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:12,799
basically when um the veteran affairs

695
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:15,919
said on the record that

696
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:18,080
an event a ufo event that happened in

697
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:19,039
1980

698
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:22,240
caused the elements to this air force

699
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:24,640
personnel this serviceman so incredible

700
00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:25,520
incredible

701
00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:28,799
and um look you had people like um lynn

702
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:29,440
woolsey

703
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:33,840
and mike gravel who were there

704
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:40,630
we also had uh robert salas

705
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:43,600
who was actually um you know part of a

706
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:44,559
minute mech crew

707
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,039
minutemen crew excuse me that worked on

708
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:49,600
a nuclear site called maelstrom so

709
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:53,120
um let's see here

710
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:55,120
i should mention to you guys like before

711
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:57,039
we go any further this was a mock

712
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:58,000
hearing

713
00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:00,960
so like it was set up and it was kind of

714
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,480
you know staged but

715
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:04,320
nonetheless it was a very powerful event

716
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:06,080
with former congress members who have a

717
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:07,360
lot of connections

718
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:10,640
in washington still so um yeah yeah

719
00:27:15,630 --> 00:27:11,679
really interesting

720
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:15,640
if you go to um to the

721
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:16,799
citizenhearing.org

722
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:20,000
right you can hear

723
00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:22,799
all 30 hours of testimony from all of

724
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:23,600
these people

725
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,760
um it's incredible it really is let me

726
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:27,120
get mr gravel

727
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:29,919
off the screen there doesn't look like

728
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:31,120
he's the one talking

729
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:34,399
hey there i am um again thank you for

730
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:35,840
for dealing with all of these uh

731
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,600
technical stuff guys i'll get better at

732
00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:38,880
this as time goes on

733
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:41,360
so let's talk about um robert salas for

734
00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:42,159
a minute

735
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:45,919
so um robert salas he was a former u.s

736
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:48,559
air force nuclear launch officer and he

737
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,159
testified at this event

738
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:52,480
um about ufos being cited over maelstrom

739
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:54,240
air force base in montana

740
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:57,600
this is back in 1967 and uh

741
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:00,640
these ufos somehow

742
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:03,840
were able to shut off the nuclear

743
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:04,640
missiles

744
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:07,679
to render them utterly useless

745
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:10,720
if needed so you can imagine

746
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:12,240
you know the tension that was going on

747
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:13,760
then and um

748
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:15,600
yeah most of this was covered up for a

749
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:16,799
really long time

750
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:20,000
robert salas has since come forward and

751
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,600
talked about his involvement

752
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:23,520
with all of this and um look these

753
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:25,360
nuclear occurrences

754
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:27,919
with ufos being cited over nuclear

755
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:30,880
missile silos um nuclear plants

756
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:33,600
uh energy plants are very common very

757
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,559
prolific

758
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:36,559
and there's tons of them so robert

759
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:38,000
actually came to this event to tell

760
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:38,640
congress

761
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:42,000
these different events and i've got a

762
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,440
small clip here

763
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:44,880
that i want to share with you guys from

764
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:47,520
robert salas's testimony so

765
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:51,279
give me one sec here recently let's say

766
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:55,120
2010 there was a shutdown of 50 missiles

767
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:56,399
in parentheses

768
00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:58,960
air force base this was announced by the

769
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:00,559
air force

770
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,039
but we do have witnesses that have come

771
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:05,440
forward called civilian at air force

772
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,480
that said they saw an object in the sky

773
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:10,559
shutdowns this is still being

774
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:11,520
investigated

775
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:15,200
but these incidents are still going on

776
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:18,880
these objects know in great detail

777
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:21,679
how our missiles operate they know ours

778
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:24,399
but we don't know bears

779
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:26,720
that's right and they they can shut down

780
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:29,440
our missiles anytime

781
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:31,840
uh they have proven that uh they know in

782
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:33,520
great detail how they operate

783
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:36,640
and so um

784
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:38,080
if you release that information to

785
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:40,080
public um what do you say

786
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:43,200
then about you know

787
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:44,880
what kind of defense do we have against

788
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:49,909
very troubling if you really think about

789
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:51,919
it what kind of defense do we have

790
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,760
if these sort of events are being kind

791
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:55,279
of brushed under the rug

792
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:58,320
and um other military branches aren't

793
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:00,080
aware of it they're not being told about

794
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:01,600
it like a lot of these ufo events

795
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:02,880
happening right now

796
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:04,640
the information isn't being shared

797
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:07,120
government-wide and that's why

798
00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:09,919
they're calling for all of these um

799
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:12,159
military branches all the intelligence

800
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,360
agencies

801
00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:15,279
to just bring their information together

802
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:17,279
and try to figure out what this ufo

803
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,320
stuff is

804
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:20,399
and uh we've made some progress i think

805
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:22,240
but we'll get to that we'll get to that

806
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:25,679
um so yeah this event went on 30 hours

807
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:26,880
of testimony

808
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:28,559
and um you know whether or not these

809
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:30,320
former congress people actually got

810
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:31,440
anything out of it

811
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:34,960
is um is for them and them alone to know

812
00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:37,679
but uh some of them did talk about you

813
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:38,399
know

814
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:39,840
what they took from the whole event and

815
00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:41,600
i did want to share with you some of

816
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:43,039
those conclusions

817
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:45,200
from representatives merrill cook

818
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:46,640
carolyn kilpatrick

819
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:49,440
and roscoe bartlett so take a look at

820
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:50,720
this

821
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:01,830
more with the quality of the witness

822
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:02,640
than i ever

823
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,720
moving me to think that a lot of further

824
00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:10,559
investigation with more resources need

825
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:11,519
to be

826
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,200
done including what i think is some push

827
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:17,360
to the united states government to put

828
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:19,120
more resources into this

829
00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:22,559
i am convinced of these sightings the

830
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:23,519
truthfulness

831
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:25,840
i have no doubt about what these people

832
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:26,799
are testifying

833
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:30,320
when we have clearly unexplained

834
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:31,919
objects out there that our government

835
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:34,000
recognizes

836
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,480
where i'm not sure we've totally met the

837
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,080
burden of proof

838
00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:40,640
is whether those have extraterrestrial

839
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:41,919
origins

840
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:44,240
so that's that's where i am in this and

841
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:45,120
uh

842
00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:50,000
with people who put this together to get

843
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:51,360
this kind of this number of

844
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:53,200
witnesses and people together in one

845
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:54,480
place

846
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:57,360
so that we can find out exactly what the

847
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,559
current

848
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:01,440
standing of this very interesting area

849
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:03,120
you know i come to this as a neophyte

850
00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:04,559
i'm not at all

851
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:06,240
versed on the issue as most people in

852
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:08,000
the room are and certainly our

853
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:10,159
excellent professional testimony of

854
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:11,760
people who have brought information

855
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,600
so i'm here to learn this is only the

856
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:15,600
second day when i was invited about a

857
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:17,360
month ago i did the research i looked at

858
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:19,440
the 1968 congressional report from the

859
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,559
science committee

860
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:22,320
as well as other things and brought me

861
00:32:27,669 --> 00:32:25,120
to this place these two days of

862
00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:27,679
actual information and how it plays in

863
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,519
our country and the world is something

864
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:31,200
that i'm most excited about learning and

865
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:32,880
i know by friday i'll be

866
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:34,559
extra better at it but i think the

867
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:36,880
congress has a role to play i think we

868
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:37,840
ought to mobilize

869
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:40,159
countries across the world who are more

870
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:41,279
into this and i think we ought to

871
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:43,120
educate americans as to what it is and

872
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:44,080
what it might become

873
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:46,080
and i'm concerned i'm concerned like

874
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,600
some of these men who've given their

875
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:49,120
lives in the military

876
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,200
and have been witnesses of some of this

877
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:52,960
that we're studying this week

878
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,480
and then they have health care problems

879
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:56,480
and can't get get them taken care of i'm

880
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,240
concerned about that as an appropriator

881
00:33:01,750 --> 00:33:00,399
for over 12 years in the congress

882
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:01,760
those who give their lives for our

883
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:03,279
country ought to be able to get the

884
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:06,240
service of our country when they need it

885
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:08,240
well i accepted the invitation to be a

886
00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:10,000
part of this panel because

887
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:11,919
i carry a constitution and the first

888
00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:13,600
amendment says that the citizens have a

889
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:14,240
right

890
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:16,320
to petition the government for redress

891
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:17,440
of grievances

892
00:33:21,509 --> 00:33:19,120
they have a grievance they have there's

893
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:21,519
not been a hearing on ufos for a very

894
00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:23,200
long time they want a hearing i think

895
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:24,640
they deserve a hearing so if this would

896
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:26,080
help to get a hearing i wanted to be a

897
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:26,960
part of that

898
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,640
now what's happened during this time gee

899
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,480
you know the cloak of secrecy has become

900
00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:32,399
more and more obvious to me and me

901
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:34,399
asking myself these are honest good

902
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:35,919
people that made the decisions to pull

903
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:37,679
this cloak of secrecy over this

904
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:40,080
why did they do that i think we need to

905
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:41,600
understand why they did it so that we

906
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:43,360
can get the thing reversed

907
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:44,720
you know there's something out there

908
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:46,720
there's clearly something out there

909
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:48,399
you know and the american people have a

910
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:53,909
all right to know amen roscoe i i

911
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:55,360
couldn't agree with you more man

912
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:58,080
um we did have a a question in the chat

913
00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:59,279
someone asked

914
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:01,039
what about luella zonda what do you guys

915
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:02,720
think of him and funny you should

916
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:03,679
mention that

917
00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:06,320
that's where we are heading next guys um

918
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:07,200
so

919
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:10,159
yeah after these congressional hearings

920
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:11,919
these mock congressional hearings

921
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,200
um in 2013 things were pretty quiet for

922
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:17,760
a while we all went on with our research

923
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:20,240
and um you know kept this notion that

924
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,760
we're never going to get this

925
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:23,440
disclosure from the government they're

926
00:34:28,750 --> 00:34:25,760
not looking into ufos anymore

927
00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:28,760
and everything in between and then boom

928
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:30,399
2017 hits

929
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:33,839
with the new york times article and

930
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:37,280
there are our players now

931
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:40,320
from 2017 on uh

932
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:42,800
the topic exploded in the mainstream

933
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:44,720
with an article released by best-selling

934
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:45,760
author and journalist

935
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:48,079
leslie kane and ralph blumenthal a new

936
00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:49,040
york times reporter

937
00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:51,679
and pulitzer prize winner we learned

938
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:52,639
that the government

939
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:56,000
wasn't done investigating ufos

940
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,000
and while project blue book was out in

941
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:00,320
the public another program

942
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:03,760
went on there after but in the shadows

943
00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:06,720
of black budget so yeah let's take a

944
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,839
look at a

945
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:10,400
news clip when this all kind of kind of

946
00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:12,079
first came to light

947
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,240
tonight cnn has learned the pentagon had

948
00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:16,800
a secretive program to research ufos

949
00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:17,440
like the one

950
00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:19,599
fraver spotted the project was called

951
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:21,280
the advanced aviation threat

952
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:22,800
identification program

953
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:25,520
run by an official named luis elizondo i

954
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:26,880
think this is a national security

955
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:27,839
imperative

956
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:30,960
we have clear things that we do not

957
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:32,720
understand how they work

958
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:36,160
operating in areas that we can't control

959
00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:38,720
a defense official tells cnn the program

960
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:39,520
cost at least

961
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:41,920
22 million dollars over five years

962
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:44,880
before it was shut down in 2012.

963
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:46,480
according to the new york times and

964
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:49,200
politico which first reported this story

965
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,880
tens of millions of dollars for the

966
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:52,480
project were pushed through

967
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:54,560
by former senate majority leader harry

968
00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:59,430
yeah so we kind of all know what

969
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:01,440
unraveled since then which is what we're

970
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:02,640
gonna get to

971
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:04,240
next so i'm gonna return to this image

972
00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:05,680
for a moment here guys

973
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:07,599
uh let's talk about what happened since

974
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:10,079
we learned about atip and um

975
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:12,800
you know where where it all lands today

976
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,200
uh

977
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:15,280
up to what's going on right now with

978
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:17,920
this pentagon ufo report that's supposed

979
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:21,359
to be released uh any day now any minute

980
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,079
so a tip was headed by luis elizondo who

981
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,720
um you saw on the cnn video

982
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:28,560
and um he was a former us army

983
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,800
counterintelligence special agent

984
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:33,119
and uh a former employee of the office

985
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:35,200
of the under secretary of defense

986
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:38,160
for intelligence so he resigned from the

987
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:38,720
program

988
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:41,200
because he was not being taken seriously

989
00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:42,640
within the pentagon with what he was

990
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:43,599
bringing them

991
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:45,520
you know this ridicule factor and stigma

992
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,640
with ufos

993
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:48,480
was still very much alive even though

994
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:49,680
this program

995
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:53,599
was going on um but yeah he resigned

996
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:55,839
and uh he pushed for more study into

997
00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:56,960
this topic

998
00:37:00,310 --> 00:36:59,280
from the government now being outside of

999
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:00,320
the government

1000
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:02,480
and meanwhile and that's luis elizondo

1001
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:04,000
there with the goatee

1002
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:06,079
there in the bottom picture next to mr

1003
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:07,520
tom delong who

1004
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:11,119
is a a story in itself but this all

1005
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:13,119
really happened because of tom delong

1006
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:15,680
the former front man at blink 182 that

1007
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:17,119
will be a different lecture

1008
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,880
for a different time but um the

1009
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:21,040
gentleman in the sunglasses next to luis

1010
00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:22,640
elizondo

1011
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:24,800
is christopher mellen the former deputy

1012
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:26,480
assistant secretary of defense for

1013
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:27,359
intelligence

1014
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:29,119
and former staff director of the united

1015
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:30,640
states senate select

1016
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:33,599
committee on intelligence and he

1017
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:36,000
actually drafted a request to the

1018
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:38,240
senate intelligence committee very

1019
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:39,440
recently

1020
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:42,960
and asked the pentagon to create a uap

1021
00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:45,680
report with collected data and evidence

1022
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:46,400
of uh

1023
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:49,920
ufo reports within the military and uh

1024
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:50,800
brief

1025
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:54,160
congress on this issue and um

1026
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:55,920
some of this report was request

1027
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:57,359
requested to be made

1028
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:59,359
public to everyone which is what we are

1029
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:00,480
waiting for

1030
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:03,440
on pins and needles every day now might

1031
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:04,000
be even

1032
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:06,640
when you possibly see this this little

1033
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:07,599
presentation

1034
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:10,720
um you know hopefully hopefully we'll

1035
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:12,000
see it very soon

1036
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:15,920
but uh i actually had the very um

1037
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:18,720
i guess you know fortune of interviewing

1038
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:20,480
luis elizondo and

1039
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:23,200
christopher mellon moments after news

1040
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:24,400
broke that uh

1041
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:27,359
this report thing was actually gonna

1042
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:28,079
happen

1043
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:29,760
um for those of you who don't know there

1044
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:32,640
was this small little caveat within that

1045
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:33,520
huge

1046
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:36,560
uh 2020 covet relief build that uh

1047
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:38,960
former president donald trump signed in

1048
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:42,000
into action and within this tiny tiny

1049
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:43,440
thing in the um

1050
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:46,320
the authorization act was about this

1051
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:47,040
report

1052
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:48,960
being requested from the senate

1053
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:50,320
intelligence committee

1054
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,160
to um naval intelligence uh department

1055
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:56,880
of defense and uh basically everyone

1056
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:58,640
within government to be like

1057
00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:01,680
stop stovepiping what you know about

1058
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:02,800
these topics

1059
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:05,040
share your information and let's figure

1060
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:06,320
out what this is could this

1061
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:08,240
this could be potentially a threat to

1062
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:10,320
our nation and other nations

1063
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:12,000
as well and that's kind of where we

1064
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,440
stand today but um

1065
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:15,839
right after we heard that this report

1066
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:16,640
was gonna

1067
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,440
actually happen um like i said i talked

1068
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,960
to both of these gentlemen

1069
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,320
and i just wanted to share a couple

1070
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:24,240
quotes that they gave to me

1071
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:27,440
over at uh over at the debrief

1072
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:29,119
so christopher mullin said it's now fair

1073
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,640
to say that the request for an

1074
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:32,320
unclassified report on the uap

1075
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:34,079
phenomenon enjoys the support of both

1076
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,640
parties in both houses of congress

1077
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:38,880
assuming the exact executive branch

1078
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:40,960
honors this important request

1079
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:42,960
the nation will at long last have an

1080
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:44,480
objective basis

1081
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,440
for assessing the validity of the issue

1082
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:50,000
and its national security implications

1083
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,000
this is an extraordinary and long

1084
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,480
overdue opportunity

1085
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:56,880
and elizondo went on to tell me this

1086
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,200
report when submitted will serve as a

1087
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:01,440
litmus to determine how seriously

1088
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:04,160
the pentagon takes this topic and even

1089
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:05,599
more so the authority

1090
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:08,640
and the will of congress let me remind

1091
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:11,359
the pentagon that the world is watching

1092
00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:19,270
so yeah i thought that was pretty cool

1093
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,119
that these guys were willing to say

1094
00:40:24,309 --> 00:40:23,359
these things and to again hold the fire

1095
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:24,319
under

1096
00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:28,400
executive branch and

1097
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:31,520
under the military to to say the public

1098
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:32,640
wants to know

1099
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:35,200
and we're taking this topic seriously so

1100
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:36,720
yeah that's um

1101
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:38,400
i thought that was pretty cool um let's

1102
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:39,839
see what do i have here next for you

1103
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:40,400
guys

1104
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:43,040
um and i should mention there is a

1105
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:44,720
pentagon task force

1106
00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:47,119
that's submitting this report that's

1107
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:48,560
working on all of this too

1108
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:51,359
so never in my ufological days did i

1109
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:52,800
think there would be

1110
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:55,680
a pentagon task force looking into ufos

1111
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:57,280
aside from eight tip

1112
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:59,920
again another story for another time uh

1113
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:01,520
i'm gonna go in the chat here just for a

1114
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:02,960
minute i'm not ignoring you guys i'm

1115
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,359
just

1116
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:05,119
i had no idea how long this presentation

1117
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:07,200
would take so i kind of wanted to

1118
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:11,920
barrel through it um let's see here

1119
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:15,839
hi audrey hi gaza hi warlink hi steven

1120
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:17,920
hi james thank you everyone for being

1121
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:20,720
here guys i really appreciate it um

1122
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:23,119
this is this is going so well way better

1123
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:24,480
than i anticipated so

1124
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,079
thank you for dealing with all of my

1125
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:27,839
technical things here um

1126
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,359
the next thing i wanted to share with

1127
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:31,119
you guys uh and i'm gonna have to do a

1128
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:31,920
share screen

1129
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:33,760
for this one these other videos i have

1130
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:34,960
like all ready to go

1131
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:37,839
um so bear with me uh but these are

1132
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:39,839
comments that have actually been made

1133
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,960
by recent congress members and senators

1134
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:44,240
and representatives

1135
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:48,000
about this report coming out so you know

1136
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:49,599
it's pretty interesting these aren't

1137
00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:51,119
former uh

1138
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:53,200
people who were in office these are

1139
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:54,960
people in office right now

1140
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:58,079
who have been briefed on this issue

1141
00:42:01,190 --> 00:42:00,560
and have seen the classified report so

1142
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,200
um

1143
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:03,440
yeah we have senator martin heinrich of

1144
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:04,400
new mexico

1145
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,400
senator mark kelly of arizona who was

1146
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:08,480
also a former astronaut so he's got a

1147
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:09,599
little cool story

1148
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:11,200
to share with you guys in this interview

1149
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:12,880
and senator tim burchett

1150
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:15,200
of tennessee um they all had some really

1151
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:16,960
interesting things to say so

1152
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:19,280
again bear with me here while i queue up

1153
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,630
all right here we go what do you think

1154
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:31,680
about all this ufo

1155
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:34,240
stuff going on right now uh i think we

1156
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:35,680
need to get to the bottom of it it's

1157
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:36,800
pretty intriguing

1158
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:39,839
i don't know what it is but anytime you

1159
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:40,800
have uh

1160
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:44,319
legitimate uh pilots describing

1161
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:45,760
something that

1162
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:48,960
doesn't seem to conform to uh

1163
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:52,480
uh the the laws of physics that

1164
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:56,960
govern aviation and is in

1165
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:59,359
u.s airspace i think it's something we

1166
00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:00,560
need to get to the bottom

1167
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,400
bigger thing to worry about if it's a

1168
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:04,560
foreign government or if it's aliens

1169
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:07,280
oh option b much bigger you think the

1170
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:08,800
aliens would be worse

1171
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:12,880
uh i i cannot imagine

1172
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:16,720
if we have uh if there is a foreign

1173
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,680
government that had

1174
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,599
these kinds of capabilities i think we

1175
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:21,280
would see uh

1176
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:24,960
other indications of advanced technology

1177
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:28,400
i can't imagine that

1178
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:31,440
that what has been described or or shown

1179
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:33,119
in some of the videos

1180
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:38,000
is of uh belongs to any government that

1181
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:41,119
i'm aware i'm not really a betting man

1182
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:45,119
but the way uh these things

1183
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:48,240
operate you know they certainly you

1184
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:49,280
wouldn't want a human

1185
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:52,240
being or any living creature in

1186
00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:53,359
something that

1187
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:56,240
moves that fast and changes direction

1188
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,319
that quickly

1189
00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:00,800
so like i said i've i have no idea what

1190
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:02,319
it is but i think we should figure it

1191
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:03,440
out

1192
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:06,400
this is pretty interesting so on my

1193
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:08,240
third space shuttle flight

1194
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,880
we thought we had a piece of debris

1195
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:12,720
floating above the payload day

1196
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:14,079
and it was right before i was closing

1197
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:15,920
the payload course and i was really

1198
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:17,119
concerned

1199
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,880
about what was this because it looked

1200
00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:20,319
like it was about this big

1201
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:21,680
and i was concerned it may have came

1202
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:23,359
come off the payload bay doors

1203
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:24,880
or some other equipment in the payload

1204
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:26,560
bay we're getting ready to close them

1205
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:27,440
could it be

1206
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:30,960
something that uh would interrupt

1207
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:33,440
the successful closing and we need these

1208
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:36,720
doors to close before we can re-enter

1209
00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:40,000
take pictures of this and

1210
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:41,280
before we sent the pictures to the

1211
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:42,720
ground i said to mike fossum and say hey

1212
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:44,000
give me the camera

1213
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:47,520
so i and this is this is a nikon d5 and

1214
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:47,760
i

1215
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:55,040
away as that door

1216
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:57,280
right i zoom in on it and i keep zooming

1217
00:45:02,710 --> 00:44:58,960
in on it you know what it was

1218
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:02,720
it was the space station 60 miles away

1219
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,319
so my point is sometimes you see stuff

1220
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:08,160
and it looks like one thing and it's

1221
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:09,920
actually another a space station that

1222
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:11,520
weighed a million pounds

1223
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:13,839
size of a football field 60 miles away

1224
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:15,680
and i thought it was that distance and

1225
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:17,280
all six of us onboard the space shuttle

1226
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,079
did

1227
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:20,560
are these ufos a national defense

1228
00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:21,119
concern

1229
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,640
national security interview depends on

1230
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:24,800
what it is what it is i mean if

1231
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:28,400
if we if we um

1232
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:30,160
you know we'll see the report you know

1233
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,319
if there's i'm as interested

1234
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:34,240
as as you would see again i don't know

1235
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:35,680
if there's a classified version of it

1236
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:36,560
i'll find out

1237
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:39,200
uh in a week but we are always concerned

1238
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,640
i am the chairman of emerging threats

1239
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:42,000
and capabilities on senate armed

1240
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:43,119
services

1241
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:46,960
so if our adversaries have developed

1242
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:49,040
you know technology that we don't

1243
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:50,800
understand and have made

1244
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:53,440
you know sometimes countries make techno

1245
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:55,040
technological leaps

1246
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,480
that we don't anticipate if somebody

1247
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,079
made a technological leap

1248
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:00,480
it's important that we know about it

1249
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,640
congressman i know right now um

1250
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:04,400
with president biden when he's going to

1251
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:06,079
speak to um putin

1252
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:07,760
that he's talking he's going to ask him

1253
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:10,800
about the ufo thing and stuff like that

1254
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:12,079
i think that's ridiculous if the

1255
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:14,000
russians had ufo technology

1256
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:15,920
i mean they would own us right now they

1257
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:17,200
used to say that they've heard people

1258
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:17,760
talk about

1259
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,440
how the nazis had it in the second world

1260
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:21,040
world if they did they would have won

1261
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:23,040
that is ridiculous it has to be

1262
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,640
something that's that's out of our

1263
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:26,319
galaxy it just has to be if

1264
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,520
it if it in impact is real because

1265
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:31,440
you have always been a straight shooter

1266
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:33,839
it's been like i know when um it's

1267
00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:36,000
been bipartisan but the one thing i've

1268
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:37,839
noticed is

1269
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,680
it doesn't matter which president is

1270
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:41,920
nobody ever talks about the uh they

1271
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:43,280
always say they're gonna do something

1272
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,240
about it and then they get in

1273
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:46,480
office and honestly i thought trump was

1274
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:47,760
gonna do something i was gonna release

1275
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:48,640
the files but

1276
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,000
you know they release these files are

1277
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:51,920
redacted it's just a big blob

1278
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:54,480
white out and uh clearly something's

1279
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:55,280
going on

1280
00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:57,520
that we can't handle i mean ufos were in

1281
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:58,880
the bible

1282
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:00,960
read ezekiel talks about the wheel

1283
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:03,040
flying around so i mean

1284
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,480
they've been around since we've been

1285
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:06,400
around and um somebody needs to come up

1286
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:07,280
with some answers

1287
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:08,800
so even when something's supposed to be

1288
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,880
released coming up in a few

1289
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:12,480
weeks or months what do you think is

1290
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:14,560
going to be in that i don't believe it i

1291
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:16,640
i think roswell was covered up i think

1292
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:17,920
um

1293
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:19,599
you know more people believe in ufos and

1294
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:21,119
believe in congress for good reason

1295
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:22,720
because of the jack lake stuff we do

1296
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,440
like that

1297
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:24,960
we we talk about we're going to release

1298
00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:27,040
it and then we never do or we release

1299
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,559
something that's so redacted

1300
00:47:32,069 --> 00:47:30,960
that it's just ridiculous the air force

1301
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:32,079
had a release of

1302
00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:34,800
uh on roswell which was the big the big

1303
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:36,319
deal i think from 48

1304
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:38,319
and the big cover up there and and the

1305
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:40,160
guy that did it was a smart aleck and he

1306
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:41,599
kind of smirked the whole time and

1307
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:43,040
nobody took it serious they ought to

1308
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:44,720
take it serious american public wants to

1309
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:47,599
know and frankly we deserve to know

1310
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:50,800
i love that uh tim burchett

1311
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:53,040
just laying down everything ezekiel's

1312
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:53,839
wheel

1313
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,920
trusting you know uap over congress um

1314
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,599
yeah he made some interesting points i

1315
00:48:01,990 --> 00:48:01,040
thought it was funny too that actually

1316
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:02,000
the first clip

1317
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:03,839
in the last clip we watched were both

1318
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:07,040
interviews from tmz of all places that

1319
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:08,559
got these interviews with congress

1320
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:09,280
people

1321
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:11,280
um yeah i thought that was pretty

1322
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:13,119
interesting um

1323
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:16,319
so i think tim burchett actually made a

1324
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:17,440
really good point

1325
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:20,400
of um people don't have a lot of trust

1326
00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:21,200
in

1327
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:25,280
reason

1328
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:27,119
very little ever seems to really get

1329
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:28,640
done um

1330
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:30,559
and in terms of not trusting the

1331
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:32,000
government you know we

1332
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:35,760
we live in an age now of just rampant uh

1333
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:38,559
conspiracy theory so of course a lot of

1334
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:40,000
people don't trust the government

1335
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:43,440
so um there might be some truth to that

1336
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:47,680
and actually rewinding back to 2013

1337
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:51,359
when uh mike revell when he kind of um

1338
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:54,160
to the audience there at the event he

1339
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:54,880
said

1340
00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:56,800
this is great that you're telling us all

1341
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:58,559
these things that you want change to be

1342
00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:00,079
enacted within congress

1343
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,800
when it comes to ufos but um you might

1344
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:04,480
be looking at the wrong place so

1345
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:05,040
actually

1346
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,480
i'm gonna go ahead and play this video

1347
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,160
for you guys because i found this

1348
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:10,079
pretty telling from a former congress

1349
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:12,640
member and uh what he had to say

1350
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:14,480
so let me go ahead and play that for you

1351
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:16,559
now and we are stuck

1352
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:19,520
in in a system a structure of governance

1353
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:21,040
that's 250 years old

1354
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,280
that is totally irrelevant to dealing

1355
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:25,520
with our problems that we face today

1356
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:27,440
say oh we're going to go to the congress

1357
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:29,760
i got to tell you i've said that earlier

1358
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,280
in the week it's a dead letter

1359
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:33,520
and hold your breath it's never going to

1360
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:34,319
happen

1361
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:35,920
and it's not that i'm demeaning the

1362
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:37,680
congress i've been there

1363
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:40,559
and i'll tell you that that they they

1364
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:42,640
don't have the power that you think they

1365
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:44,319
have but when you have a structure of

1366
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,040
government

1367
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:47,280
that doesn't permit the people to take

1368
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:48,480
responsibility

1369
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:51,359
you guarantee the continuation of civic

1370
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:52,400
adolescence

1371
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:55,200
there's only two venues for change one

1372
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:56,319
is the government

1373
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:59,280
wherein structurally the problem exists

1374
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:00,160
and the other

1375
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:03,200
is the people the answer is the people

1376
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:06,480
it's not your leaders don't trust your

1377
00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:07,200
leaders

1378
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:10,400
marcus cicero defined freedom

1379
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:13,599
as participation in power

1380
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:16,880
you will never never see fundamental

1381
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:17,440
change

1382
00:50:24,829 --> 00:50:21,200
in our society or global society until

1383
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:24,839
the power can be relegated to the people

1384
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:26,240
directly

1385
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:29,359
i have personally unreserved

1386
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:32,079
faith in the people and if you don't

1387
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:34,000
have faith in the people

1388
00:50:39,829 --> 00:50:37,440
what do you have faith in the leaders

1389
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,839
and that's exactly where we're at today

1390
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:41,520
there's a lot more out there

1391
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:44,480
that could benefit the human race but we

1392
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:45,920
can't get our hands on it because we

1393
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:46,640
don't have this

1394
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:48,640
we don't have the structure of

1395
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:54,000
governance to be able to go at it

1396
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:56,319
yeah so again my special thanks to ruben

1397
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:58,880
langdon and uh jeremy corbell for

1398
00:51:01,910 --> 00:51:00,400
providing a lot of these clips from the

1399
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:01,920
citizen hearing but uh

1400
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:04,079
getting back to that that was pretty

1401
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:04,960
pretty interesting

1402
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:06,640
that a former congress person would say

1403
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:09,200
that like don't trust your leaders

1404
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:10,720
if you really want the information on

1405
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:12,800
this because uh you ain't gonna get it

1406
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:15,680
um which is sobering in some ways but i

1407
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:18,720
do think there is some truth to uh

1408
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:21,280
the people having the power and i think

1409
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:22,880
that's kind of what we're seeing play

1410
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:24,319
out with people like

1411
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:27,680
luis elizondo who is now really

1412
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,240
really putting the pentagon and the

1413
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:32,160
department of defense um

1414
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,640
you know putting their feet in the fire

1415
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:36,000
and backing them into a corner

1416
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:37,680
so that they do have to get this

1417
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:39,599
information out to the public that the

1418
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:41,359
public so rightfully

1419
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:43,040
deserves to an extent we all know

1420
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:44,400
national security

1421
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:46,400
is an issue and that a lot of things

1422
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:48,079
cannot be told to the public for that

1423
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:48,960
reason

1424
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,160
understandable but i think there's

1425
00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:54,720
also a large portion of all this that

1426
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,160
they could share with us

1427
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:58,559
and that could benefit humanity that

1428
00:52:01,910 --> 00:51:59,920
they're not sharing with us

1429
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:01,920
as well so again just my personal

1430
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,440
opinion um

1431
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:06,160
but yeah when the power is given to the

1432
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:06,960
people

1433
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:09,359
i think that's where it's at but the

1434
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:10,720
conundrum is how do you

1435
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:14,720
enact actual change unless you do it

1436
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:17,599
within the government so um it's a

1437
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:18,559
catch-22

1438
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:20,319
it really is and i think that's where we

1439
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:22,240
are today and i think that's the

1440
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:23,839
struggle with what is going to happen

1441
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:25,119
with this pentagon

1442
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:28,000
uap report and whatever happens after

1443
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:28,880
that as well

1444
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,800
but um there's another video i wanted to

1445
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:32,240
share with you guys

1446
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:35,280
uh and this is with uh sean cahill and

1447
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:36,800
christopher mellon from an interview

1448
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:38,000
they did with um

1449
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:41,359
with cuomo over on cnn so um you know we

1450
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:42,800
know who

1451
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:44,960
uh christopher mellon is but sean cahill

1452
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:46,559
for any of you who don't know

1453
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:49,440
he is a uh investigative filmmaker and a

1454
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:50,480
retired u.s

1455
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:53,280
navy chief master at arms he served on

1456
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:55,040
board the uss princeton during the

1457
00:52:59,589 --> 00:52:55,760
infamous

1458
00:53:01,910 --> 00:52:59,599
tic tac uap event of

1459
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:01,920
uh he was in this interview with chris

1460
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:03,520
mellon and um

1461
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:05,119
yeah let's dissect a little about what

1462
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:06,960
these guys talk about after we watch

1463
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:08,880
this

1464
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:11,440
but why now what's new in terms of the

1465
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:12,960
urgency chris and i'll ask you both

1466
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:14,720
about this

1467
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:16,480
sure happy to address that so what

1468
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:19,119
happened was a couple of years ago

1469
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,240
lou elizondo and the pentagon who was

1470
00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:24,240
managing this activity with almost no

1471
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:25,839
resources

1472
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:28,640
he and i and a few others became aware

1473
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:29,440
that

1474
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:31,520
this was going on on a very significant

1475
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:33,280
scale on the east coast at the time and

1476
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:35,680
our pilots were not getting any support

1477
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:38,240
the intel community was not responding

1478
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:39,200
nobody was

1479
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:41,040
was helping these guys out and it wasn't

1480
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:42,720
being reported up the chain

1481
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:44,079
it wasn't until that got into the new

1482
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:45,839
york times and got to the attention of

1483
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:46,880
congress

1484
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:50,240
that finally our our leadership in both

1485
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,000
branches of government became aware

1486
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:54,640
this was going on so this has only just

1487
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:56,400
come to light

1488
00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:59,599
uh sean what do you think is the likely

1489
00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:00,400
universe of

1490
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:02,480
explanation that will come up at the end

1491
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:03,599
of these reports

1492
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:06,720
and addressing of this chris i think

1493
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:07,839
that we're going to find that this

1494
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:10,000
phenomenon represents a very large

1495
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:13,040
spectrum of different things uh edges of

1496
00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:14,880
that spectrum are going to be near pure

1497
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:16,960
technology of our adversaries

1498
00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:18,880
here on earth at the other end of that

1499
00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:20,079
spectrum is going to be something that

1500
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:21,440
we don't yet understand and haven't

1501
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:22,800
identified yet so

1502
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:24,800
i hesitate to speculate on the source

1503
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,079
but i can tell you that i don't believe

1504
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:28,079
that this is within our arsenal of any

1505
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:29,760
human technology at the moment

1506
00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:32,079
i'm a fact-first kind of guy on this i'm

1507
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:33,440
open to everything because there's so

1508
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:34,720
much i've learned in life that i would

1509
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:35,760
never imagined

1510
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:38,319
but i do know this uh i worry about the

1511
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:39,280
safety

1512
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:42,000
of uh men and women like you sean and

1513
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:43,599
chris the people who wind up having to

1514
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:45,119
cross the policy line to get into

1515
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:45,760
practice

1516
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:47,440
i worry that you're safe i worry that

1517
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:49,520
people aren't beating us at our own game

1518
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:51,280
and that we have to learn through

1519
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:52,880
spending blood and treasure that was

1520
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:53,760
unnecessary

1521
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:56,799
so any exploration any research

1522
00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:59,040
any report any hearing that helps us

1523
00:55:00,870 --> 00:55:00,480
understand how to keep our fighting men

1524
00:55:02,309 --> 00:55:00,880
and way

1525
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:02,319
women safe is the only way to honor your

1526
00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:06,630
yes i thought that was a pretty good

1527
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:09,440
interview um i'm glad sean was able to

1528
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:10,720
kind of uh

1529
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,760
demystify this whole idea that um we're

1530
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:15,599
saying that these are alien no

1531
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:17,440
we have absolutely no idea what we are

1532
00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:19,680
saying however and what the pentagon has

1533
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:20,000
since

1534
00:55:26,710 --> 00:55:24,480
stated is that um out of 120 cases

1535
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:26,720
that they have looked at so far that

1536
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:27,920
none of these cases

1537
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:31,359
involve any sort of um advanced

1538
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:34,559
us technology and probably not that of a

1539
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:35,920
rival nation

1540
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,480
either so you know what else could it be

1541
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:40,160
that's the real question um

1542
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,000
but what i find really interesting is

1543
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:44,160
that sean is saying this christopher

1544
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:45,200
mellon is saying this

1545
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:47,040
luis elizondo is saying this the

1546
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:48,960
pentagon is saying this

1547
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:51,440
that what we're dealing with is not us

1548
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:52,079
tech

1549
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:55,280
and if we rewind all the way back

1550
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,839
to what stanford was saying back in you

1551
00:56:02,710 --> 00:55:59,119
know the 50s

1552
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:02,720
it's the same message we're looking into

1553
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:03,440
it

1554
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:09,839
eventually um so i found that really

1555
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:11,280
interesting we sort of have

1556
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:14,559
this um this turn of phrase that back in

1557
00:56:17,349 --> 00:56:15,520
the 50s is

1558
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:17,359
mirroring what we're hearing from the

1559
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:19,200
pentagon today

1560
00:56:25,030 --> 00:56:22,960
um so yeah again um we have to keep in

1561
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:25,040
mind that the term flying saucer

1562
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:27,040
was used during the time of panic of

1563
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:28,720
these things in our skies back with

1564
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:30,079
kenneth arnold

1565
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:32,240
and um you know this ufo wave in

1566
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:33,200
washington

1567
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:35,920
dc and then the air force actually

1568
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:38,400
coined the term unidentified

1569
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:41,520
flying objects excuse me uh ufo

1570
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:45,520
to kind of downplay the um the more

1571
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:48,720
sensational or high strangeness claims

1572
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:50,880
of these ufos

1573
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:53,119
and this was to like i said tell the

1574
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:55,520
public it's unidentified now but we will

1575
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:57,359
most likely identify it

1576
00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:59,200
and now in the past few years we've gone

1577
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:00,559
from unidentified fine

1578
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:03,280
object to unidentified aerial phenomena

1579
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:04,480
uap

1580
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:07,680
so it once again it comes from the

1581
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:08,559
government

1582
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:11,280
and might be a tactic to either i don't

1583
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:12,160
know

1584
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:13,839
shed the ridicule maybe the stigma of

1585
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,200
ufos or

1586
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:17,359
it's to confuse us even more and keep

1587
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:18,640
the mystery going

1588
00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:21,119
until the public sort of forgets about

1589
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:22,079
it and um

1590
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,240
you know the message is the same now

1591
00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:26,400
with the pentagon task force as it was

1592
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:28,559
back in the 50s with sanford so

1593
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:30,559
i found that pretty interesting i know

1594
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:32,319
some of you probably do not agree

1595
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,839
with any of these things i'm saying

1596
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:35,359
which is completely fine

1597
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:37,520
who am i to say who are you to say we're

1598
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:39,040
in this together but um

1599
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:42,319
yeah so what people are reporting is not

1600
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:45,359
united states technology so

1601
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:48,400
who is it that kind of remains

1602
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:50,079
the biggest question you know either way

1603
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:51,599
the term uap

1604
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:54,960
uh seems to be here to say to stay

1605
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:57,200
and um who will be the next to

1606
00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:58,160
investigate it

1607
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:01,119
you know if this is all a threat who'll

1608
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:03,200
protect us you know what um

1609
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:08,640
what permanent department or i guess uh

1610
00:58:12,309 --> 00:58:11,359
let's say military branch might be there

1611
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:12,319
to protect us

1612
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:16,000
from these threats if they are alien

1613
00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:20,559
um i got some ideas i got some ideas

1614
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:22,720
some people look to the stars and ask

1615
00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:24,640
what if

1616
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:28,160
our job is to have an answer we have to

1617
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:30,880
imagine what will be imagined

1618
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:32,880
plan for what's possible while it's

1619
00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:34,960
still impossible

1620
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:36,640
maybe you weren't put here just to ask

1621
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:38,319
the questions

1622
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:41,520
maybe you were put here to be the answer

1623
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:51,349
isn't on this planet

1624
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:53,920
i'm just saying i'm not saying it's true

1625
00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:56,160
but we have to ask these questions

1626
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:58,960
you know is this a tactic to get more

1627
00:59:02,069 --> 00:58:59,760
people

1628
00:59:03,589 --> 00:59:02,079
interested and excited about space force

1629
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:03,599
um could be

1630
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:05,599
um luis elizondo has said that is not

1631
00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:06,720
the case so

1632
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:08,960
um you know you could take his word for

1633
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:09,920
it or we can

1634
00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:12,400
continue to dig deeper and ask these

1635
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:13,839
tougher questions of

1636
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:16,319
everything going on right now with ufos

1637
00:59:20,950 --> 00:59:17,440
and the government

1638
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:20,960
um so yeah i guess kind of

1639
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:22,720
what i want to leave with you guys with

1640
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:25,280
for this uh presentation portion of this

1641
00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:26,400
live stream

1642
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:29,839
is um this report it's coming out any

1643
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:30,400
day

1644
00:59:33,589 --> 00:59:32,240
um we have no idea what it's going to

1645
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:33,599
entail um

1646
00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:35,680
like i said people are excited people um

1647
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:37,119
aren't holding their breath

1648
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:41,119
but i look at it this way um it's more

1649
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:44,400
ufo cases hopefully that the public will

1650
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:45,200
get to see

1651
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:49,359
that have happened from you know 2004

1652
00:59:53,349 --> 00:59:51,920
and forward they're not going to tell us

1653
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:53,359
what happened at roswell

1654
00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:54,480
they're not going to tell us what

1655
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:56,960
happened in rendelsham forest

1656
01:00:02,069 --> 00:59:59,040
any of that we're talking about current

1657
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:02,079
day ufo cases which is very

1658
01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:04,559
exciting again will we see any of that i

1659
01:00:08,789 --> 01:00:05,520
don't know

1660
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:08,799
um i have heard rumors that we will see

1661
01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:09,520
some

1662
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:11,599
interesting things the new york times

1663
01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:12,640
has apparently

1664
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:15,280
seen the classified report and um

1665
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,559
supposedly there's some pretty

1666
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:18,000
interesting stuff in there

1667
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:19,200
we will have to wait and see what

1668
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:21,599
happens with that but um

1669
01:00:27,910 --> 01:00:24,960
this is kind of leading me to this

1670
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:27,920
bigger question if we zoom out for a

1671
01:00:33,510 --> 01:00:29,119
minute here and

1672
01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:33,520
let's say just one one ufo case

1673
01:00:37,030 --> 01:00:36,079
in all of the history of the ufo

1674
01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:37,040
phenomenon

1675
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:40,319
what if one of them was alien that's all

1676
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:41,119
we need

1677
01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:44,079
just that one single case the rest of

1678
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:46,000
them could have other explanations

1679
01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:48,480
whether conventional or anomalous but

1680
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:49,119
one

1681
01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:53,200
would need

1682
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:56,319
to change the world

1683
01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:58,160
um the fact that we now know we are not

1684
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:00,319
alone and we've been visited is um

1685
01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:02,960
it's profound and it could really

1686
01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:03,520
shatter

1687
01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:05,760
every paradigm that we've ever

1688
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:06,799
encountered

1689
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:09,359
on this planet so i think that's

1690
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:10,880
exciting and i actually found this

1691
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:11,760
really

1692
01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:14,559
interesting interview um that kind of

1693
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:16,160
had to do with all of this about the

1694
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:17,440
report coming out

1695
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:20,799
but it wasn't one that um really made

1696
01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:21,920
the rounds

1697
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:23,680
and not with people you would really

1698
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:25,200
think of um

1699
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:28,480
so i'm going to show you a gentleman

1700
01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:36,309
so this is professor tim marithi uh he

1701
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:36,880
is the

1702
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:38,799
head of programming at the institute for

1703
01:01:43,589 --> 01:01:40,720
justice and reconciliation

1704
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:43,599
he is based in cape town and um is a

1705
01:01:47,589 --> 01:01:45,280
professor of african studies

1706
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:47,599
at the center for african studies the

1707
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:50,480
university of free state south africa

1708
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:52,960
he has over 23 years of experience in

1709
01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:54,720
the fields of peace security

1710
01:01:58,309 --> 01:01:57,200
international justice governance and

1711
01:02:00,789 --> 01:01:58,319
development

1712
01:02:01,829 --> 01:02:00,799
um so yeah this last video that i'm

1713
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:01,839
going to show you guys

1714
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:05,440
is uh with the sabc which is the south

1715
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:07,599
african broadcasting corporation

1716
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:10,640
um where pedro nadoro a news anchor

1717
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:12,720
talked to tim marithi and i'm just going

1718
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:13,920
to play it for you guys

1719
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:16,160
and we can um hopefully discuss a little

1720
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:17,760
bit about it after

1721
01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:20,720
let me find that video for you here so

1722
01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:21,839
the three current

1723
01:02:24,870 --> 01:02:23,359
theories about what potentially they

1724
01:02:26,789 --> 01:02:24,880
could be um

1725
01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:26,799
you know the u.s government is notorious

1726
01:02:29,670 --> 01:02:28,000
for in fact

1727
01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:29,680
releasing slowly releasing new

1728
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:31,039
technology

1729
01:02:34,789 --> 01:02:33,280
to the public and uh and gradually

1730
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:34,799
saying okay look we finally built this

1731
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:36,160
thing this is how it flies

1732
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:37,839
so that's one theory it could be u.s new

1733
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:40,319
tech it could be also china russia

1734
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,640
eu japan maybe also they've got new tech

1735
01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:44,160
we don't we don't know about

1736
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:46,640
and the third theory that is is is the

1737
01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:48,400
most kind of intriguing for me is that

1738
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:50,000
this potentially is

1739
01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:52,160
an extraterrestrial civilization that is

1740
01:02:55,750 --> 01:02:53,520
in fact interacting

1741
01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:55,760
with humanity for the first time uh for

1742
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:57,359
the reasons that i mentioned

1743
01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:00,480
um that we are at a technological uh

1744
01:03:04,470 --> 01:03:02,480
point now where we can not only film

1745
01:03:07,109 --> 01:03:04,480
them but perhaps even understand

1746
01:03:08,789 --> 01:03:07,119
the dynamics the the mechanics and the

1747
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:08,799
you know the the engineering

1748
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,920
that goes into into into enabling craft

1749
01:03:16,150 --> 01:03:13,200
to do this we know

1750
01:03:16,950 --> 01:03:16,160
the theories out there in terms of of of

1751
01:03:19,430 --> 01:03:16,960
these uh

1752
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:19,440
you know anti-gravity uh flight in fact

1753
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:21,359
if anyone does a search they will find

1754
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:22,960
that the information is known the

1755
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:24,559
practicality of doing it

1756
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:26,240
though has not been uh has not been

1757
01:03:29,829 --> 01:03:27,760
achieved yet so

1758
01:03:31,109 --> 01:03:29,839
perhaps this is the time that we are

1759
01:03:33,190 --> 01:03:31,119
seeing that there are other

1760
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:33,200
civilizations out there that are in fact

1761
01:03:37,510 --> 01:03:35,520
prepared to to engage with humanity and

1762
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:37,520
and maybe even help us maybe even help

1763
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:39,200
us deal with with a covet

1764
01:03:43,349 --> 01:03:41,359
virus that's still uh you know in our

1765
01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:43,359
society

1766
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:45,680
i mean you know the more we talk about

1767
01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:47,599
this and the idea that there could be

1768
01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:49,119
other civilizations

1769
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:51,520
of course people will be thinking what

1770
01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:52,400
is going on

1771
01:03:56,549 --> 01:03:55,520
um but let's assume for a second that

1772
01:03:59,349 --> 01:03:56,559
there could be

1773
01:04:00,789 --> 01:03:59,359
other civilizations i mean to think that

1774
01:04:03,589 --> 01:04:00,799
this tiny little planet

1775
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:03,599
called earth in this massive universe

1776
01:04:07,750 --> 01:04:05,200
exists a lot alone

1777
01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:07,760
perhaps maybe the starting point but

1778
01:04:10,829 --> 01:04:09,200
what might it mean

1779
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:10,839
if let's say there are other

1780
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:12,480
civilizations what could it mean for

1781
01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:14,319
humanity

1782
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:16,079
well i think it would be a real game

1783
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:18,079
changer in terms of even our

1784
01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:20,640
own the way we deal with each other as

1785
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:22,079
human beings you know we're so

1786
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:24,640
busy fighting and we're engaged in

1787
01:04:28,870 --> 01:04:26,319
factionalism if we

1788
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:28,880
if we discover that in fact that there

1789
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:30,640
is there are other civilizations out

1790
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:31,280
there

1791
01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:33,200
it helps it it makes us think and look

1792
01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:34,480
at each other as

1793
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:36,400
oh wow okay so maybe we shouldn't really

1794
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:37,920
be doing all of this uh

1795
01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:40,400
you know uh kind of factionalism and

1796
01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:42,240
battles that that we engage in

1797
01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:43,920
and begin to see ourselves differently

1798
01:04:48,069 --> 01:04:46,559
that this is this is our home the earth

1799
01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:48,079
and there are other homes out there that

1800
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:50,079
we need to start engaging with

1801
01:04:52,870 --> 01:04:51,599
now there's a challenge in terms of

1802
01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:52,880
making sure that mentally we are

1803
01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:54,160
prepared to deal with this you know

1804
01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:55,680
there's a lot of dogma

1805
01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:57,760
um you know some for some people their

1806
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:58,720
religious uh

1807
01:05:02,470 --> 01:05:01,200
upbringing doesn't really permit them to

1808
01:05:04,309 --> 01:05:02,480
think in these terms

1809
01:05:06,470 --> 01:05:04,319
there's a very strong narrative that

1810
01:05:07,510 --> 01:05:06,480
they get and uh so there's a mental

1811
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:07,520
preparation

1812
01:05:11,349 --> 01:05:09,599
and preparedness that does need to take

1813
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:11,359
place we really don't know what's coming

1814
01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:12,720
now with all this information that's

1815
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:13,680
being released

1816
01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:14,880
but the fact that we have this

1817
01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:16,559
information happening disclosures

1818
01:05:21,829 --> 01:05:17,520
happening

1819
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:21,839
and confirmation of the reality of uh

1820
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:23,440
you know these crafts that we don't

1821
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:25,440
understand i think it's important for us

1822
01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:27,680
as as citizens of the world to actually

1823
01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:29,359
begin to engage more seriously with this

1824
01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:36,870
yeah so i love that let me get mr tim's

1825
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:39,440
uh beautiful headshot off the screen

1826
01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:39,920
there

1827
01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:44,559
interview i love the um

1828
01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:46,319
sort of you know the nature of the

1829
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,480
conversation you know we could talk all

1830
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:50,400
we want about ufos and the government

1831
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:51,359
but um

1832
01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:53,280
there's bigger questions to be asked

1833
01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:55,359
again if any of these

1834
01:05:58,870 --> 01:05:57,520
are from another planet another universe

1835
01:06:02,630 --> 01:05:58,880
another dimension

1836
01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:02,640
um it changes everything and it makes us

1837
01:06:06,710 --> 01:06:05,680
have to really question everything we've

1838
01:06:10,710 --> 01:06:06,720
ever been taught

1839
01:06:12,309 --> 01:06:10,720
and um and move into a new reality

1840
01:06:13,829 --> 01:06:12,319
it really does everything would

1841
01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:13,839
fundamentally change

1842
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:16,960
if again any of these ufos are

1843
01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:20,559
of non-human origin so um

1844
01:06:23,750 --> 01:06:22,640
yeah i guess that's kind of why i want

1845
01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:23,760
to leave it for this

1846
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:25,920
presentation portion of this guys um

1847
01:06:29,910 --> 01:06:27,280
again this uap

1848
01:06:31,349 --> 01:06:29,920
report should be coming out any day now

1849
01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:31,359
and um

1850
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:33,280
i'll just say this temper your

1851
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:34,880
expectations

1852
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:38,640
be excited but also just know that

1853
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:40,880
every time this has happened every time

1854
01:06:44,069 --> 01:06:42,400
the government has promised us

1855
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:44,079
information on ufos

1856
01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:46,960
we're often let down and um we've dealt

1857
01:06:50,390 --> 01:06:48,160
with this before

1858
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:50,400
so um i really hope history is not

1859
01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:51,760
repeating itself

1860
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:54,400
um a really interesting thing that luis

1861
01:06:58,470 --> 01:06:55,520
elizondo

1862
01:07:00,309 --> 01:06:58,480
said recently on uh the disclosure team

1863
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:00,319
podcast and youtube channel

1864
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:04,400
um and also that uh that ufo podcast is

1865
01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:05,280
brought up is

1866
01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:09,200
um luis elizondu does believe that this

1867
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:11,359
report will be very mundane

1868
01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:14,640
and um will not share a lot with the

1869
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:15,359
public

1870
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:18,640
and he doesn't like that and he has said

1871
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:20,160
on the record

1872
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:22,319
we have a contingency plan if that's the

1873
01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:25,200
case so i really do think elizondo knows

1874
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:26,720
more than he's letting on

1875
01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:29,039
and i also think that he has a backup

1876
01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:31,119
plan if this uap report

1877
01:07:37,829 --> 01:07:34,640
is not what people uh expected wanted

1878
01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:37,839
deserve is probably the right word so um

1879
01:07:41,510 --> 01:07:40,559
i look forward to whatever happens um i

1880
01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:41,520
can tell you this

1881
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:44,000
we're all gonna be on ufo twitter and on

1882
01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:45,440
youtube talking about it

1883
01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:48,720
for months after which um hey

1884
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:52,079
we're living in the year the decade of

1885
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:54,400
ufos and that's all we could ever ever

1886
01:07:57,750 --> 01:07:56,480
ask for so um yeah

1887
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:57,760
that's kind of where i'm gonna leave it

1888
01:08:00,630 --> 01:08:00,000
for uh this part of the conversation

1889
01:08:03,510 --> 01:08:00,640
guys

1890
01:08:05,109 --> 01:08:03,520
so i hope you enjoyed that i'm gonna go

1891
01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:05,119
back to the comments here

1892
01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:07,359
thank you thank you everyone who um

1893
01:08:10,230 --> 01:08:08,400
hopped in and

1894
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:10,240
gave their comments and and made it

1895
01:08:14,230 --> 01:08:11,680
through that was a marathon

1896
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:14,240
so um yeah let's see what everyone's

1897
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:15,520
talking about here a lot of people are

1898
01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:17,520
talking about the classified annex

1899
01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:20,319
which again it could be true could not i

1900
01:08:23,910 --> 01:08:22,159
can't confirm that the new york times

1901
01:08:25,829 --> 01:08:23,920
has seen that these are rumors that i've

1902
01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:25,839
heard um

1903
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:28,960
but yeah let's um let's see what

1904
01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:30,480
everyone has to say here

1905
01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:32,480
oh someone mentioned kehoe that's what

1906
01:08:37,269 --> 01:08:34,159
kihoe seemed to think

1907
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:37,279
um mentioning

1908
01:08:43,269 --> 01:08:40,400
kehoe i have for you guys

1909
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:43,279
a list of ufo books i think you should

1910
01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:44,799
check out if you really want to learn

1911
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:45,839
more about

1912
01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:48,640
ufos and the government and the military

1913
01:08:51,749 --> 01:08:50,640
again if you're new to this topic i hope

1914
01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:51,759
this will help you

1915
01:08:54,789 --> 01:08:53,600
i hope this is a primer for what will

1916
01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:54,799
become a

1917
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:57,440
bigger part of your life and um and your

1918
01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:58,159
research

1919
01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,719
so anyone new to this topic thank you

1920
01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:01,920
for checking this out

1921
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:04,400
um let me give you some recommendations

1922
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:06,000
i've got here

1923
01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:09,600
uh we've got ufos by leslie kane

1924
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:11,520
um generals pilots and government

1925
01:09:16,709 --> 01:09:13,199
officials go on the record

1926
01:09:18,789 --> 01:09:16,719
this is a freaking um

1927
01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:18,799
bible for anyone out there who wants to

1928
01:09:23,990 --> 01:09:20,640
look into ufos in the government

1929
01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:24,000
so many amazing testimony from uh pilots

1930
01:09:27,110 --> 01:09:25,679
and government officials and

1931
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:27,120
and everyone in between talking about

1932
01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:29,040
ufos the most credible cases

1933
01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:30,719
you can think of so definitely check

1934
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:32,560
this one out um

1935
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:35,679
what else do we have here someone

1936
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:36,239
mentioned

1937
01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:38,880
kiho we have the flying saucer

1938
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:40,239
conspiracy

1939
01:09:45,269 --> 01:09:43,359
um which is if you don't know who kiho

1940
01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:45,279
is go look him up right now

1941
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:47,679
he is one of the most tenacious ufo

1942
01:09:50,470 --> 01:09:48,480
researchers

1943
01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:50,480
that was out there challenging the

1944
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:52,400
government before anyone else

1945
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,080
would and i give him all the credit in

1946
01:09:57,750 --> 01:09:56,080
the world for doing that he truly has

1947
01:10:01,669 --> 01:09:57,760
paved the way for many of us today

1948
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:01,679
uh elizondo included so i think he's

1949
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:03,040
he's awesome and that's definitely a

1950
01:10:08,709 --> 01:10:05,600
book you should check out we have got

1951
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,719
oh this one's falling apart on me this

1952
01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:10,400
is a collector's edition the report on

1953
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:12,159
unidentified fine objects

1954
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:14,320
by edward j rupelt who was actually the

1955
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:16,000
head of project blue book

1956
01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:19,120
for a while um and came out with

1957
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:21,199
this book after project blue book was

1958
01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:22,159
kind of

1959
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:24,159
shut down and everything and gave his

1960
01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:25,760
thoughts and opinions on

1961
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:27,520
on the ufo phenomenon and what they did

1962
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,800
at project blue book

1963
01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:30,719
so definitely check this one out it is

1964
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:32,640
definitely you have to have this

1965
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:35,679
in your arsenal um another one i'm

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01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:36,480
reading

1967
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:39,040
right now that i've read in the past is

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01:10:44,470 --> 01:10:40,320
mirage men

1969
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:44,480
by mark pinkleton and um pilkington

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01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:45,280
excuse me

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01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:46,880
mark pilkington mark if you're watching

1972
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:48,800
this i apologize brother um this is a

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01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:50,640
book all about

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01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:54,480
disinformation and how the air force how

1975
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:55,840
the government um

1976
01:11:02,790 --> 01:10:59,040
intelligence agencies have used the ufo

1977
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:02,800
mythos and the ufo issue um to disinform

1978
01:11:07,189 --> 01:11:03,920
both the public and

1979
01:11:09,189 --> 01:11:07,199
other nations and um have

1980
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:09,199
sometimes even infiltrated the ufo

1981
01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:10,960
community to see what they're looking at

1982
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:12,800
i mean hey if um

1983
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:14,880
you know you have former military people

1984
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:17,040
getting involved in the ufo topic

1985
01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:18,400
and they're going to these conferences

1986
01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:20,480
talking about well i worked on this top

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01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:21,199
secret thing

1988
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:24,000
um that's not cool that's not cool so

1989
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:24,560
they

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01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:28,159
conferences and kind of scope out what

1991
01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:28,960
people were looking

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01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:32,800
into um i know for a fact that there

1993
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:37,760
was a afo afosi i believe it was office

1994
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:39,120
of special investigations

1995
01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:41,760
for the air force um a former agent of

1996
01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:42,400
them

1997
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:44,800
was at many ufo conferences that i

1998
01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:46,400
attended and spoke at

1999
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:49,920
um looking into people so it is what it

2000
01:11:54,149 --> 01:11:51,920
is i think it's a very good book there

2001
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:54,159
is a documentary as well i highly

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01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:54,880
suggest

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01:11:58,470 --> 01:11:57,280
you check those out because there is a

2004
01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:58,480
lot of disinformation

2005
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:01,520
in this field in this topic and um you

2006
01:12:05,189 --> 01:12:03,120
got to try to figure out

2007
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:05,199
what um what's real what's not and

2008
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:06,640
everything in between so

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01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:09,040
um that's all i got for you guys my

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01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:10,239
recommendations

2011
01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:12,400
that's the history of ufos in the

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01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:13,360
government

2013
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:16,960
um let's see disclosure team thanks for

2014
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:18,719
mentioning ryan of course my man

2015
01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:21,360
if anyone has not checked out disclosure

2016
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:22,000
teams youtube

2017
01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:23,360
channel go over there right now and

2018
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:25,040
subscribe click like

2019
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:26,960
and watch his interview he did today

2020
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:31,440
with luis elizondo it was fantastic

2021
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:35,040
let's see here um

2022
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,400
audrey says i just rewatched the

2023
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:38,640
mirageman documentary super interesting

2024
01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:39,199
yeah

2025
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:41,600
it really is audrey um revisiting the

2026
01:12:43,910 --> 01:12:43,199
book really brought back some memories

2027
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:43,920
too for me

2028
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:45,840
um that are not uh featured in the

2029
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:47,920
documentary so definitely go back to the

2030
01:12:53,390 --> 01:12:49,120
book if you can

2031
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:53,400
um yup disclosure team says rick dodie

2032
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,360
ufology's number one enemy again

2033
01:13:01,750 --> 01:12:59,360
google rick doty i'm not going to go

2034
01:13:02,070 --> 01:13:01,760
into it here um for you newbies out

2035
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:02,080
there

2036
01:13:05,669 --> 01:13:03,520
um so yeah let's do a little

2037
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:05,679
housekeeping so

2038
01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:09,440
today um live on use youtube

2039
01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:13,360
i took part in a awesome discussion

2040
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:17,120
with my boy max over in amsterdam

2041
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:20,400
on his show victon met moskowitz

2042
01:13:26,229 --> 01:13:23,520
with max moskowitz um we talked

2043
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:26,239
all about everything going on in the ufo

2044
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:27,280
world now

2045
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:30,880
um we talked about in a very interesting

2046
01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:33,760
dutch ufo case at a nuclear site that i

2047
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:34,960
had never even

2048
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:37,760
heard of so um i hope you'll go check

2049
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:38,080
out

2050
01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:41,920
moscowitz

2051
01:13:46,709 --> 01:13:44,640
and um subscribe there as well

2052
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:46,719
disclosure team did hop in with us

2053
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:48,320
vinnie did for a little bit

2054
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:49,840
um and we talked about his interview

2055
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:52,560
with lou and we just we just really

2056
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:54,960
ran the gamut it was so much fun so

2057
01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:57,760
please please please go check that out

2058
01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:01,440
um june 25th through june 28th

2059
01:14:05,110 --> 01:14:04,159
is contact in the desert well it's

2060
01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:05,120
pretty cool

2061
01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:08,320
look the poster is hands um

2062
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:10,640
look at your boy i'm in row number two

2063
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:13,120
there right next to russell targ

2064
01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:15,440
of all people the remote viewing guy

2065
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:16,800
that's so cool um

2066
01:14:21,430 --> 01:14:19,600
i didn't notice that before so yeah um

2067
01:14:23,350 --> 01:14:21,440
contact in the desert is happening june

2068
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,360
25th through june 28th

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01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:25,600
over two weeks to view the event it is a

2070
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:27,600
virtual event this year

2071
01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:30,080
i am giving a talk about the human

2072
01:14:33,430 --> 01:14:32,000
approach to the ufo phenomenon

2073
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:33,440
where you hear from many witnesses to

2074
01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:36,719
ufo events including military witnesses

2075
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:37,600
as well

2076
01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:40,560
i also will be conducting a panel

2077
01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:41,600
discussion

2078
01:14:47,110 --> 01:14:44,719
with three former navy personnel who are

2079
01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:47,120
part of the now famous tic tac event uh

2080
01:14:52,229 --> 01:14:50,159
go fest and gimbal events as well and

2081
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:52,239
get their human side to these

2082
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:54,719
these things too so i hope you will

2083
01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:57,440
check out contact in the desert dot com

2084
01:15:00,550 --> 01:14:59,199
and get your tickets there they have

2085
01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:00,560
weekend passes

2086
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:02,560
available my events are on saturday and

2087
01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:04,560
sunday so if you just want to check out

2088
01:15:10,229 --> 01:15:06,640
the weekend events you can do that

2089
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:10,239
um or you can get the entire conference

2090
01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:13,760
for three days of um just incredible

2091
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:14,480
events

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01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:16,800
um and look you know i know some of

2093
01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:18,719
these people may not be up your alley

2094
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:20,640
and you may not agree with a lot of them

2095
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:22,480
but um you get to pick and choose what

2096
01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:24,239
you want to watch and don't watch so

2097
01:15:28,870 --> 01:15:26,719
i think that's pretty cool um mj

2098
01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:28,880
binnayas is going to be there

2099
01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:31,920
who else do we have avi loeb is going to

2100
01:15:36,470 --> 01:15:33,280
be there as well which is

2101
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:36,480
really cool um nick redfearn whitley

2102
01:15:40,149 --> 01:15:37,360
strieber

2103
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:40,159
kevin knuth uh the list goes on and on

2104
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:41,600
cheryl costa

2105
01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:44,800
as well um yeah yeah so i hope you will

2106
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:46,400
check that out guys

2107
01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:50,159
and um i just released today actually

2108
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:53,040
my discussion with christina gomez from

2109
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:54,800
the paradigm shifts youtube

2110
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:57,760
channel and also a contributor to the

2111
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:58,719
debrief

2112
01:16:03,189 --> 01:16:01,280
um we talked about everything from how

2113
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:03,199
she got involved in ufos

2114
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:06,080
to uh her reporting over at the debrief

2115
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:07,760
uh we talked all about the scientific

2116
01:16:11,189 --> 01:16:09,040
developments

2117
01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:11,199
as of late and how those can contribute

2118
01:16:15,430 --> 01:16:12,400
to the ufo

2119
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:15,440
uh conversation and um

2120
01:16:20,149 --> 01:16:17,280
yeah it's a lot of fun we talked about

2121
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:20,159
really old uso cases

2122
01:16:24,870 --> 01:16:22,239
uh you know ufo objects that have been

2123
01:16:26,790 --> 01:16:24,880
seen to go into or come out of the water

2124
01:16:28,390 --> 01:16:26,800
and she brought two cases to me that

2125
01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:28,400
were not from decades ago

2126
01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:30,880
but centuries ago which i thought was

2127
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:31,760
pretty cool

2128
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:34,960
and um next week on summer in the skies

2129
01:16:39,669 --> 01:16:38,560
we have a very special very extended

2130
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:39,679
interview

2131
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:43,600
with uh a saucer spook walter bosley a

2132
01:16:48,550 --> 01:16:45,199
former fbi

2133
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:48,560
um and afosi agent will be on the show

2134
01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:49,120
to talk

2135
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:52,239
all about his crazy adventures

2136
01:16:55,350 --> 01:16:54,080
working in counter intelligence counter

2137
01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:55,360
terrorism

2138
01:16:58,870 --> 01:16:57,760
and all these really weird things that

2139
01:17:01,189 --> 01:16:58,880
happened to him

2140
01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:01,199
throughout his life when it comes to uh

2141
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:03,199
ufos and everything in between

2142
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:05,840
so be on the lookout for that i think

2143
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:07,760
it's gonna really start some

2144
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:11,760
interesting conversations um

2145
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:13,600
but yeah that's kind of it guys that's

2146
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:15,280
everything coming up on somewhere in the

2147
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:16,159
skies

2148
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:18,800
that is um you know all the things i've

2149
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:20,080
been up to

2150
01:17:25,270 --> 01:17:22,159
follow me on twitter at summer skies

2151
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:25,280
follow me on instagram at summerskiespod

2152
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:29,280
and um oh if if you're interested

2153
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:31,920
uh right now over on my twitter account

2154
01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:32,640
um

2155
01:17:36,870 --> 01:17:35,440
we started this thing this hashtag ufo

2156
01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:36,880
twitter selfie

2157
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:39,360
campaign um so i've got a post over

2158
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:41,120
there and it's got like

2159
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:43,600
hundreds of people who have shown their

2160
01:17:47,510 --> 01:17:44,960
faces to the world

2161
01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:47,520
and proudly embraced ufo twitter and

2162
01:17:51,189 --> 01:17:48,800
it's just been amazing

2163
01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:51,199
seeing how many uh different diverse

2164
01:17:55,590 --> 01:17:53,360
people are involved in this topic

2165
01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:55,600
want to find answers are excited for

2166
01:17:59,189 --> 01:17:56,640
what may be

2167
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:59,199
to come with the uap report or just the

2168
01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:00,239
ufo topic

2169
01:18:03,270 --> 01:18:02,080
in general and some of them just getting

2170
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:03,280
involved now

2171
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:05,520
so um hey if you're new to this we

2172
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:06,320
welcome you

2173
01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:08,880
with open arms we need all the people we

2174
01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:10,239
can get to try to unravel these

2175
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:11,040
mysteries so

2176
01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:13,440
yeah go over to twitter at summer skies

2177
01:18:16,790 --> 01:18:15,199
and uh post your selfie there

2178
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:16,800
i'm hoping to do something cool with all

2179
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:18,400
the photos and

2180
01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:20,080
bring something to you guys to bring our

2181
01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:21,760
whole ufo twitter family

2182
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:24,320
together our very dysfunctional family

2183
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:26,320
uh to say the least but um

2184
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:28,159
let's go back to the chat here before we

2185
01:18:34,470 --> 01:18:31,040
kind of close things down

2186
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:34,480
um oh give us a link i don't know if

2187
01:18:39,110 --> 01:18:35,520
you're talking to

2188
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:39,120
me william but contactingthedesert.com

2189
01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:41,600
james says um awesome stream thank you

2190
01:18:45,669 --> 01:18:43,280
so much james thank you for being here i

2191
01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:45,679
appreciate that

2192
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:51,270
check your instagram dms ryan let's chat

2193
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:54,000
soon brother you got it my man

2194
01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:59,280
uh awesome ufo guy spaceman is here

2195
01:19:02,390 --> 01:19:01,600
that's all i got guys um so yeah if you

2196
01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:02,400
have any

2197
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:04,480
questions or or comments you want to put

2198
01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:05,520
in the chat

2199
01:19:11,189 --> 01:19:09,120
um please feel free but other than that

2200
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:11,199
thank you thank you so much for joining

2201
01:19:15,750 --> 01:19:13,120
me tonight for the live stream

2202
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:15,760
for um you know bearing with me through

2203
01:19:19,910 --> 01:19:17,760
all that reading from a script but uh

2204
01:19:21,030 --> 01:19:19,920
i hope you enjoyed all those videos i'm

2205
01:19:23,350 --> 01:19:21,040
gonna try to um

2206
01:19:24,470 --> 01:19:23,360
curate this talk a little more get it

2207
01:19:26,709 --> 01:19:24,480
nice and tight and

2208
01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:26,719
put it out to the public so you are the

2209
01:19:30,149 --> 01:19:27,760
first people

2210
01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:30,159
to ever see it i hope you enjoyed it i

2211
01:19:33,350 --> 01:19:31,360
hope you're excited

2212
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:33,360
about the pending uap report no matter

2213
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:34,719
what it says or doesn't

2214
01:19:40,070 --> 01:19:37,840
say but um yeah that's all i got for you

2215
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:40,080
guys so if there are not any questions

2216
01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:42,960
um please go check out the podcast

2217
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:44,000
somewhere in the skies

2218
01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:45,520
release that new episode today with

2219
01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:47,280
christina and

2220
01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:49,440
um audrey says great show great live

2221
01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:50,800
stream thank you guys i really

2222
01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:52,000
appreciate that

2223
01:19:56,470 --> 01:19:54,719
um please go check out the unidentified

2224
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:56,480
celebrity review they are probably still

2225
01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:57,120
going

2226
01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:59,120
right now over there with um they're

2227
01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:00,320
talking to skeptic

2228
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:02,800
mick west tonight so that should be

2229
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:03,600
interesting

2230
01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:06,159
head on over there right now um i might

2231
01:20:09,110 --> 01:20:06,880
hop in

2232
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:09,120
in a little bit as well also check out

2233
01:20:13,030 --> 01:20:10,159
peter robbins

2234
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:13,040
meanwhile here on earth on youtube and

2235
01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:13,679
um

2236
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:15,679
that's all i got guys thank you for

2237
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:17,760
being here thank you for being a part of

2238
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:19,120
the conversation

2239
01:20:23,030 --> 01:20:21,679
and um let's circle back once this

2240
01:20:25,350 --> 01:20:23,040
report comes out

2241
01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:25,360
so i will leave you with my slogan as

2242
01:20:29,669 --> 01:20:27,440
always keep your feet on the ground

2243
01:20:30,709 --> 01:20:29,679
but never stop searching somewhere in

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the skies

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have a great night and uh we'll see you

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around the bend

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take care

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this is somewhere in the skies with ryan

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